00:19:58:03 – 00:20:23:12
Speaker 1
Hey. Hey, guys. Welcome back to another training video. This is Chris. And we are going to be focusing once again on Conversational Cam Pro. This video will entail specific details on the toolpath turning tool profile. Now we want to answer two questions pertaining to this toolpath, just like the others. Yes. We want to make sure we know what it is.
00:20:23:14 – 00:20:41:11
Speaker 1
Okay. How does the cutter actually go through the material in a certain way? To give us the detail that we need. So you know what turning tool profile actually means visually. And two, how do we program it? How do we control it? Okay. If I want to have a profile cut a certain position on a certain diameter, I want to be able to control that.
00:20:41:12 – 00:21:04:14
Speaker 1
So how do we program for that? And this video is going to answer both of those questions. Now see cam Pro doesn’t have the ability to generate any 2D CAD, or any simulations. And so we’re going to help visualize what this toolpath actually does, using the aspire CAD cam software to draw two d layouts of what we want the spindle to become.
00:21:04:14 – 00:21:22:24
Speaker 1
And then we’re also going to help visualize this on the back half of the video, where we’re going to show the cutting results of what the CNC, is actually doing when the part is approaching the material with this cutting technique known as turning tool profile. Okay. So let’s help visualize this first by going to our aspire software.
00:21:22:27 – 00:21:31:05
Speaker 1
And in another video we already showed how to turn the stock round. That was the turning round, toolpath video
00:21:31:05 – 00:21:36:14
Speaker 1
If you haven’t seen that already, I recommend you go check out that video. Now this is going to build upon this.
00:21:36:14 – 00:21:47:01
Speaker 1
This is why we did the turning round process first, because it is a core, toolpath that has to be done as a priority before other turning
00:21:47:01 – 00:21:58:04
Speaker 1
tool paths. Okay, so this technique is going to involve other types of cutters. You can still do a turning tool profile with a surfacing cutter. And we’ll have other videos that will even show doing that.
00:21:58:11 – 00:22:25:15
Speaker 1
But this video is going to show how to take traditional style cutters that give us unique profile shapes and how to turn them around the circumference of a single at a single position along our part. Okay, so this cutter as an example, is called a classic spiral cutter. And it’s two inches in diameter. And you can see the order number from magnate okay is where we get a lot of these custom profile, tool shapes.
00:22:25:18 – 00:22:43:16
Speaker 1
And so if we take this I’m just going to copy it really quick so you can see what this is going to do. If we place this let’s see, remember that this section here on the end represents a square section. Same with this end. Here’s a square section. But this middle section represents a round section that’s been turned round to 2.5in already.
00:22:43:18 – 00:23:03:13
Speaker 1
Okay. So we’re applying a detail to this round surface. So by placing this here along that face what we’ve done is we’ve taken the entire shape of the cutter and put it within the surface of that diameter. Okay. So we’re getting the entire shape. Now if we take that and we just do a mere copy, I’m just going to flip vertically.
00:23:03:16 – 00:23:32:07
Speaker 1
You can actually see how it would be wrapped all the way around that circumference. And we can also draw some just straight lines here. This isn’t necessary for programing. It just helps visualize again what the cutter is going to be doing to the material throughout this toolpath. And so if we give some straight lines here at these kind of transitional, sharp pointed sections that shows that this is going to be applying that this cutter around the entire circumference of that diameter.
00:23:32:09 – 00:23:55:13
Speaker 1
Okay. So how is the cutter actually going to give us that result. Well let’s let’s explain the toolpath. So the cutter what it’s going to do is it’s going to take the tip of the cutter. It’s going to position over where we want it to cut, let’s say the x axis. It’s going to lower the cutter down to get to a starting surface.
00:23:55:16 – 00:24:18:28
Speaker 1
So this has already been turned around to 2.5in from our previous video. And so the cutter is going to start from that surface. And then now it’s going to move down at a controlled speed okay. As the stock is rotating until it gets to the final cut position. So the stock is continually rotating during that plunging motion.
00:24:19:01 – 00:24:37:22
Speaker 1
And once it gets to the actual depth is going to finish rotating a full rotation around the circumference. And then the cutter is going to lift straight up and it is done. Okay. It’s a very simple but fast process that takes place by having the cutter positioned at a single point in the x axis, then plunging while rotating continually.
00:24:37:24 – 00:24:42:27
Speaker 1
All right. And we can repeat that as many times as we wish. For example, if we take this
00:24:43:26 – 00:25:10:09
Speaker 1
Let’s do a mere copy to the other side. So we’ll flip horizontally. And I’m also going to just go copy and paste and put another copy of this back to back. Okay. So you got two profiles back to back from one another. And you can see it gives you some slightly different results. If I just have a single cut at a single position, it gives me a very nice detailed cove, within our turned round, section.
00:25:10:17 – 00:25:38:18
Speaker 1
Whereas if I place two of these coves next to each other, it creates a bead effect within the turning. And so we have lots of variables where we can select different types of cutter profile shapes to give us almost unlimited design possibilities. By combining all of these tools, either back to back or in different ways. And we again, it gives us a lot of, possibilities when it comes to creating turn designs with this single turning technique.
00:25:38:18 – 00:25:57:19
Speaker 1
Turning tool profiles. Okay. Now the, this last step that I’m going to do here is not necessary for, again, programing. It just helps with the visuals. I’m going to take our scissors tool, the trim tool. And I’m going to trim away. Because if the cutter actually plunged down here this material wouldn’t be left over. So I can trim that away.
00:25:57:22 – 00:26:08:01
Speaker 1
And you can see it just makes it look like it should. There shouldn’t be a line going across the top of the cutter. We’re actually cutting within the material at those locations.
00:26:08:01 – 00:26:21:05
Speaker 1
so let’s go back to conversational cam Pro. And we’re going to go manage this toolpath, showing you how it how to program it so that we can go to the CNC and see the actual realistic cutting take place.
00:26:21:08 – 00:26:40:16
Speaker 1
So we’ll go to projects and we are going to training samples. I re created a project for training samples like we’re doing here. And in the training center we have a blank that we created from our previous again turning round video. Now if I go to manage my toolpath for this blank, we have our turning round toolpath in there.
00:26:40:16 – 00:27:00:01
Speaker 1
Awesome. Again, if you haven’t seen that video, I recommend watching it. We’re going to add another toolpath to this so we can see, one that you can combine multiple toolpath as many as you wish, but we’re only going to focus on one today. And again, it’s the turning process called a tool or turning tool profile technique okay.
00:27:00:04 – 00:27:20:10
Speaker 1
So let’s add that it’s going to add it to the bottom of the list. Excellent. And we can close this. So now we have our tool profile that we need to program. So if we go into our tool profile which is going to start asking us a series of questions, and we can use this as a helper, but I’m going to try to explain what each, each one of these mean so that you know what is happening.
00:27:20:10 – 00:27:38:15
Speaker 1
Because these questions are very abbreviated. And you may not know if this is the first time using the software. Okay. So the first thing we’re going to do is we going to select the tool that we want to use for this, turning tool profile. And that information I had back in this software right here. So it’s the classic spiral two inch diameter cutter.
00:27:38:15 – 00:27:55:09
Speaker 1
That’s what it is. That’s the shape of the cutter and even the order number. But we can go back to Cam Pro and it has the same tool library that I pulled that from. So if I click on this field here to open up our tool library, we can go here to Classic Spiral two inch diameter. And hey that looks very very similar doesn’t it.
00:27:55:12 – 00:28:20:06
Speaker 1
Okay. So that’s the cutter that we’re going to be using. And it has a lot of the details necessary. To automatically start cutting with this tool. So if we select this tool it’ll ask us what tool number we can assign this tool. Now. Because this tool path was added to the file and with another tool path, for example the turning round sequence that was done.
00:28:20:06 – 00:28:35:12
Speaker 1
And then in the other video used a surfacing cutter. And we assigned that one to tool number one. So if we were combining this with that, process in a single part, this would be tool number two. Okay. That’s naturally is how it would flow.
00:28:35:12 – 00:28:45:29
Speaker 1
Okay, so the section diameter. So this question is asking where is the cutter starting to cut from what diameter section.
00:28:46:04 – 00:29:09:22
Speaker 1
We kind of visualize that back in aspire I said that the cutter here and at the tip of the cutter has to come down to a known surface to start cutting. Right. And so this is the diameter section that process that’s already been turned round, and that if we actually measure that, we can throw a dimension out here has been turned round, a vertical dimension of 2.5in.
00:29:09:22 – 00:29:30:29
Speaker 1
So that is our section diameter that the cutter is going to start cutting from. So instead just slamming the the cutter into the material really, really fast. It’s going to start right at the material surface and then work its way into the material at a controlled speed. So we’re not, you know, accidentally, overloading any tool spindles or even the machine if we took things too fast.
00:29:31:06 – 00:29:53:09
Speaker 1
Right. So with that in mind, we can go back to cecum and put in section diameter, f 2.5in in diameter is where the surface of the where the tip of the cutter is going to start from that diameter surface. Now we could put in the x position where we want the cutter to cut along the x axis. And this is really cool.
00:29:53:09 – 00:30:08:18
Speaker 1
I’m going to show you a cool tip here. And so if we go back to our drawing board the cutter is going to obviously be cutting over here right over that tool okay. I don’t have to keep dragging this cutter around. I just want to show it where it was for the z axis. So I’m gonna get rid of that.
00:30:08:18 – 00:30:28:00
Speaker 1
But we know the cutter is going to cut here, here and here along the x axis. Now in the previous process where we we were using the surfacing cutter to turn the stock round, remember it was it was starting and it put the edge of the cutter at the starting point. And it put the edge of the cutter at the ending point.
00:30:28:03 – 00:30:55:01
Speaker 1
Right. And it automatically calculated to do that for us, for that specific toolpath, the turning round toolpath, these other tool paths there are being applied to an already round section actually don’t require, the edge of the cutter to be measured. We just need to measure to the center of the cutter. So if we go and grab a measurement here, just a dimension from x0, same position that we had measured zero from our other turning round processes.
00:30:55:03 – 00:31:16:20
Speaker 1
And we go here to the center of the cutter that is going up. That’s a vertical dimension. Wrong. One horizontal. There we go. So if we go from zero to the center of our cutter, that is going to give us an expert composition of five. In order to make the cutter go to that location. While we’re at it, I’m also going to find these other locations.
00:31:16:20 – 00:31:43:21
Speaker 1
We have three of these tool profiles taking place, right. So that one’s at 11. And this one, the final one, the third one is going to be at 13 okay. So originally actually this is just part of Camp essentials, the basic conversational camp. You would have to program each of these tool paths okay. Each one of those cuts as a separate turning tool profile tool paths okay.
00:31:43:21 – 00:32:07:07
Speaker 1
That’s just how it is. However in C Camp Pro we can actually combine multiple cuts in our tool profiles into one tool path. So here we have five, 11 and 13. We can combine them as long as we follow two rules. One is we’re using the same cutter okay. Which we are same cutter. For all three of these cuts we’re using the same cut depth.
00:32:07:09 – 00:32:27:20
Speaker 1
So these are plunging into the material the same depth for each one. And that’s tied to the cutter shape. Right. Where why. We’re using the same cutter and it’s being applied to the same section diameter. Okay. So for example, if this one here was being applied to 2.5in, but maybe these two were being applied to two inches, like there was a two inch diameter section.
00:32:27:20 – 00:32:50:12
Speaker 1
So they were smaller in diameter. Then we’d have to put these two on a separate toolpath, and this one would be on its own. But in this scenario, because we’ve matched all the criteria necessary for this, we’re using the same cutter, same cut depths with all along the same section diameter. We can apply the five, the 11 and 13 all to the same, toolpath.
00:32:50:15 – 00:33:17:10
Speaker 1
So let’s go back in here to the x axis position and go five comma, 11 comma 13 okay. So those those three parameters just matching five, 11 and 13 okay. Now we get to see all these other questions. Some of them are already pre-filled out for us, such as how fast is going to cut, how much material it’s going to take per rotation as it’s plunging into the material.
00:33:17:13 – 00:33:38:17
Speaker 1
We’ll get into a lot of those other details of how to optimize those, when, when during certain situations. But for now, I just want to point out 1 or 2 extra things before we finish and safe. Okay. The first one is this question. And so this question is asking, do you want to use the profile height, the shape of the cutter as your cut depth.
00:33:38:19 – 00:34:04:29
Speaker 1
And in this scenario we do I mean looking at this the the cutter when we laid out the cutter original on that section diameter. Right. We were using the full depth of the tool when we position those. Right. So yes, we want to use the entire profile height as our cut depth. Now the cool thing about Sea Cam Pro is that it automatically has the cut depth parameter that profile height built into the cutter.
00:34:05:01 – 00:34:25:09
Speaker 1
And so if I go here to my cutter and I just want to show you that, so this is the cutter we selected again, the classic spiral two inch diameter. There is a field here called profile height right there. So 0.432 is the parameter that represents the height from the tip of the cutter to the shoulder. You can actually see profile height is measured right there okay.
00:34:25:11 – 00:34:40:05
Speaker 1
So that’s the cut depth that’s going to be used automatically with this tool if we say yes to that question. So if we go back here with that tool selected the yes that’s going to be tool number two. But here we say use profile height and keep it as yes, we don’t even have to go measure our cut depth.
00:34:40:09 – 00:35:02:16
Speaker 1
It’s going to take care of itself based on the tool library. Okay. Last thing I want to point out is that this is not being applied to a tapered surface, just like the other turning round process was on a cylinder diameter section. This is these cuts are also being placed on a cylinder diameter section, so that the taper is also listed as no.
00:35:02:19 – 00:35:13:29
Speaker 1
So we can now finish and save. And we have successfully programed our tool profiles, three of them technically with this one toolpath. And let’s go generate some G-code.
00:35:13:29 – 00:35:20:14
Speaker 1
we can separate our echoes if we wish to do so, and manage our tool numbers in different ways. Also if we if we wish.
00:35:20:17 – 00:35:41:12
Speaker 1
So right now it combined the turning round and the turning tool profile all in one part, which is perfectly fine. If I was doing that and I need to do that, I can have both of those checked and I can say generate my G-code and it puts the surfacing cutter to turn it round first and the classic spiral and tool number two to do the profiles.
00:35:41:12 – 00:36:04:08
Speaker 1
Okay. Excellent. That’s great. But in this scenario I’ve already cut the turned round section on my part. And I just want to add these profiles to that already turned round section that’s in my machine right now okay. So I don’t need to repeat the turning round process. I’ve already done that. I did that in the other video. And it’s just waiting in the machine for me to, for me to do this.
00:36:04:08 – 00:36:17:27
Speaker 1
So let’s generate the G-code with just the turning tool profile selected and generate G-code. And you can see now I don’t have tool number one with the surfacing cutter in there. It’s just now tool number two for the classic spiral okay.
00:36:17:27 – 00:36:28:21
Speaker 1
So we can save this G-code and go see what the final results are going to be. So we’ll save G-code and we’ll go to quick access.
00:36:28:24 – 00:36:44:23
Speaker 1
And this is going to be not a turning round to sample, but this will be a turning tool profile sample G-code. We’ll save that. And now let’s go out to the CNC and see what the cut results are.
00:36:45:23 – 00:36:52:18
Speaker 2
So, just like we programed, the cutter comes down to the section diameter of 2.5in. And from there
00:36:52:18 – 00:36:57:03
Speaker 2
performs a controlled plunge into the material while rotating the stock.
00:36:57:03 – 00:37:09:21
Speaker 2
Here the default parameter. And Cecum Pro is to plunge the cutter an eighth of an inch per rotation until it gets to its final cut depth, and the final cut depth for this process was the profile height of that cutter.
00:37:21:24 – 00:37:28:20
Speaker 2
To finish, it rotates 360 degrees around the circumference and then lifts out of the material to repeat this process for
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Speaker 1
You should now have a good understanding of what this tool path is and how to program it.
00:37:43:22 – 00:37:47:11
Speaker 1
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00:37:47:14 – 00:38:14:01
Speaker 1
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00:38:14:01 – 00:38:24:14
Speaker 1
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00:38:35:17 – 00:38:47:26
Speaker 1
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00:52:29:04 – 00:52:45:00
Speaker 1
put in section diameter, f 2.5in in diameter is where the surface of the where the tip of the cutter is going to start from that diameter surface. Now we could put in the x position where we want the cutter to cut along the x axis.
00:52:45:00 – 00:52:46:14
Speaker 1
in C Camp Pro
00:52:46:14 – 00:52:50:22
Speaker 1
We can apply the five, the 11 and 13 all to the same, toolpath.
00:52:50:25 – 00:52:59:24
Speaker 1
So let’s go back in here to the x axis position and go five comma, 11 comma 13
00:53:00:05 – 00:53:02:18
Speaker 1
So we can now finish and save.
00:53:02:18 – 00:53:03:26
Speaker 1
And let’s go
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Speaker 1
generate G-code.
00:53:04:25 – 00:53:08:16
Speaker 1
And now let’s go out to the CNC and see what the cut results are.
00:53:09:16 – 00:53:16:11
Speaker 2
So, just like we programed, the cutter comes down to the section diameter of 2.5in. And from there
00:53:16:11 – 00:53:20:26
Speaker 2
performs a controlled plunge into the material while rotating the stock.
00:53:20:26 – 00:53:33:14
Speaker 2
Here the default parameter. And Cecum Pro is to plunge the cutter an eighth of an inch per rotation until it gets to its final cut depth, and the final cut depth for this process was the profile height of that cutter.
00:53:33:14 – 00:53:40:10
Speaker 2
To finish, it rotates 360 degrees around the circumference and then lifts out of the material to repeat this process for
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Speaker 1
You should now have a good understanding of what this tool path is and how to program it.